Christian Identity Movement not racist? Huh? Danny 06:41 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

There is always that 10% who will take a part of a truth and use it to espouse hate. But what of those who do not espouse hate? Should they be categorized along with the wicked? Many of them have been. More info. PEvans 5:51 PM 11/11/03

I'm very confused. How does "lets just stick to studying God's word." equate with discussion of the terms "Reverend" and "tribes"? It's obvious he does more. I notice that, though he doesn't like Reverend, he isn't unhappy to be called Pastor. RickK 04:57, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Sometimes Pastor Murray is called "Reverend" and he responds. He says only God should be reverenced. The Tribes are mentioned all throughout the Bible. The word "Pastor" in the Hebrew means to tend the flock, i.e. to feed them. That is what he does in teaching God's word. PEvans 11:22 PM 01/08/04

Misconception

I've read a lot about the Christian Identity movement, and I have indeed seen racists espouse Arnold Murray's beliefs. That does not make Arnold Murray, or even his teaching necessarily, racist. They are in fact just older interpretations of the Bible that have fallen by the wayside for more "politically correct" messages. The 'serpent seed' is not a new doctrine, and in fact is easily supported in the Hebrew texts.

It should also be noted that Arnold Murray flatly denies racism (I have heard it from his mouth several times), and preaches that all God's children are equal and have salvation available to them. I also know many people who have come to Christianity through him, even if they don't believe every intricate Bible teaching Murray offers.

In light of the man's works in the Church, he should be respected for the Bible scholar he is. Doesn't the Bible say there in black and white (or red, if you will) that true teachings would be perverted?

Don't be so ready to believe every website you believe (even this one!) Find out for yourself.

I think we need to rewrite this to make it a little more un-bias. Too many opinions are stated without proof. Stick to the facts about this man.

I'm watching Arnold Murray right now, and he is devoting an entire episode to the subject of the mound builder native american tribe of Ohio, and their "holy stones" and mounds. The tone is completely positive, suprisingly non-ethnocentric in its praise of the mounds and those who built them. Remarkably, interviews 2 gentlemen, one of them on site out on a mound, the first time I've seen him outside of his studio. There is some suggestion that the mound buildres may have been ancient jews, however ;) (Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 20:20, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

moved to talk

It has has been suggested he has admirers who are associated with the white-supremacist Christian Identity movement, although he vigorously asserts that he has no association with them or any group.

Who suggests this? All I can find is other churchs attacking him (mainly as a heretic) and joke sites which are amused about the gun incident. He's on tv 24hrs a day in some places, and every night/morning in many more, so plenty of those who arn't members of his church are quite familiar with him. I've never heard of any Christian identity tie-ins. (Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 00:39, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)