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Why does this list use the names that it does, instead of (fill in the blank)?

You're always welcome to recommend a change to the preferred breed name (for use here and as the primary article name for that breed). We recommend proposing the change here first, or it might just get changed back. This list was assembled by looking at the breed names used by all of the major English-language breed clubs (as listed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Dog breeds), or by doing web searches to try to identify a large majority of usage, or by discussions here about other logic that would make a particular name the most appropriate for Wikipedia's multicountry, multiculture audience, or various combinations of these methods.

You might find discussions about what breed names to use here, or in the Dog breeds project and its subpages, or in the talk page for the breed itself. Elf | Talk 04:40, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Archives of earlier discussions

• Talk:List of dog breeds/archive 1
  • name choices - initial decisions
  • listing alternative names - format?
  • genealogical tree of dog breeds
  • adding new breeds
  • "purebred"/"mixed breed"
  • photo problems
  • Siberian Husky done
  • registry choices
  • Jack Russell - four types
• Talk:List of dog breeds/archive 2
  • names: Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog/Otto, Canadian Eskimo Dog/Canadian Inuit Dog
  • CKC list of breeds e-mail available from sannse
  • capitalization of dog breed names - Always capitalize in articles
  • disambig Barbet
  • names: Balkan Hound/Serbian Hound
  • unidentified photos
  • list alternative names? (Yes)
  • names: Epagnuel Picard/Picardy Spaniel
  • names: Shorthaired/Short-haired - choose as for name variations
  • names: Yugoslavian * Hound/Serbian * Hound
  • names: * Fox Terrier/Fox Terrier (*), * Corgi/Corgi (*) (but see also later discussion), Dachshund - leave as is for now
  • Kennel club Group articles
  • Photos of breeds w/out articles - moved
• Talk:List of dog breeds/archive 3
  • Newbie questions: Adding breed infobox, whether to include UKC registry, what is a breed, what to include in References, use of photos, who fixes errors
  • Crossbreeds vs newly developed breeds
  • English Toy Terrier vs Toy Manchester Terrier (2 separate breeds)
  • Category for Working dog
  • Naming for Corgis (e.g., Pembroke Welsh Corgi vs Welsh Corgi (Pembroke) *), Alaskan husky (capitalized or not*; breed* or just type), Italian Spinone, Osterreichischer Kurzhaariger Pinscher or Austrian Pinscher*, clarifying Tornjaks and Croatian Shepherds, Viszla (only one article for diff hair types)
  • Request to review pit bull article
  • Notice about adding photos requests to Wikipedia:Requested_pictures#Dog_breeds

Photo questions

1. Can someone identify the breed in this photo? American Bulldog, perhaps?
2. Does anyone know anything about the breed Kintamani , which is how this photo was identified?

Elf | Talk

1. I think so; I'm not a bulldog person though
2. Never heard of it, but going on looks alone, I want one! Swamped now, but if no response after this week I'll do a search if you remind me.

Quill 23:51, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

1. Could be an American Bulldog, but it might be a Boxer or Boxer mix.... it's not quite girthy enough to fix the usual AB standards....
2. Couldn't find much info on them. A few pages found through google (very few), mostly personal pages and the like... seems to be a native dog in Bali. [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 03:02, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Got email back from the original photographer who says it's a Boxer. Hm. I knew a woman who had what I thinkn she called an American Bull Terrier that looked a lot like this dog, but I'm lost in the morass of bulls and terriers and americans... But now that I look again, no, it doesn't look like that at all. Could be a boxer. Maybe I'll ask my boxer friends. Elf | Talk 05:09, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)

The articles "Dog breed" and "List of dog breeds" need foreign links

Just wanted to drop a note that the article "Dog breed" does not have any link to another language until now. In German there is a REDIRECT from "Liste_der_Hunderassen" to "Hunderasse". I can not follow exactly where the other languages are supposed to point. Regards Gangleri 02:08, 2004 Sep 23 (UTC)

Wish I spoke any other languages well enough to figure these out. Thanks for mentioning it; perhaps someone will be able to track them down. Elf | Talk 02:26, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I added a link to the spanish list of dog breeds. The french dog and cat pages only have a short list of breeds on them, with almost no articles... those are the only languages i even know the words for dog or cat in... [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 13:47, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Norrbottenspets

Another interesting spelling case. This is what our original researcher indicated was the most common name from English-language sources. I have found the following using Google searches of English-language sites:

• Norrbottenspets (1660 pgs) (FCI spells it this way on its main page--but see below-- Oh, look CKC[1] spells it like this, too)
• Nordic Spitz (2270 pages)
• Norbottenspets (notice only one R) (2250 pages) (spelled this way in my main reference dog encycopedia and by the UKC, the only kennel club other than FCI to recognize the breed)
• Norrbottenspitz (56 pages) (FCI spells it this way in its published breed standard, linked to by EN on this page [2])
• Norbottenspitz (287 pages)
• Norrbotten Spitz (38 pages)
• Norbotten Spitz (18 pages)

There are norrbottenspets.org and norrbottenspets.net (both kennels) but none for norbottenspets, norrbottenspitz, norbottenspitz, or nordicspitz.

Elf | Talk 02:13, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I only looked at the most common name via Google if there was an even split between the breed associations or if just the FCI recognised the breed (in which case it is often unclear whether the native name or the English language name is most often used in English). I used the name most often used by the breed associations as first choice. In this case I would have chosen the name used by the CKC, especially as that was confirmed by the FCI (although I didn't notice the discrepancy in the standard - well spotted there!). I didn't look at the UKC at the time, which confuses the issue somewhat.

My inclination is to stick with the Canadian/FCI (main page) version as the main title, include the other versions in the table or article text, and ensure all the redirects are in place. What do you think? -- sannse (talk) 10:31, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

I agree. Elf | Talk 15:45, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Landseer (Continental-European type)/Newfoundland

The FCI considers the Landseer (Continental-European type) a different breed from the black and white Newfoundland. this is discussed a little at Newfoundland (dog) but is probably one of those cases where we will eventually need an article at Landseer (Continental-European type) describing the issue in more detail. I've set up the links to reflect this. Does it look like the best format? -- sannse (talk) 18:40, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Hmmm, it's not "full" correct; in standard FCI is black and white newfoundland and people say: it's newf in landseer's "couleur", but is really newfoundland; and is also white and black dog - have another standard in FCI - landseer ect... Gr. --Andrzej z Helu 19:15, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I think that Landseer (dog) should be sufficient. I checked the FCI breed standards after reading preceding; indeed, it recognizes a black & white Newfie:

COLOUR : Black, white and black, and brown. ... White and black : This variety is of historical significance for the breed. The preferred pattern of markings is black head with, preferably, a white blaze extending onto the muzzle, black saddle with even markings and black croup and upper tail. The remaining parts are to be white and can show a minimum of ticking.

and a separate Landseer:

The Landseer should convey the impression of a tall, powerful and well balanced dog. The legs are comparatively longer than those of the black Newfoundland. ... COLOUR : Main colour of coat is a clear white with distinct black patches on body and croup. Collar, forechest, belly, legs and tail must be white. Head black, with white muzzle and white symmetrical blaze - neither too narrow, nor too wide - extending from muzzle over head to the white collar, being considered a definite breeding goal. Ticking still occuring in the white not to be penalized, but should be bred away.

The New Encylopedia of the Dog sheds a little light by saying: "Before the Newfoundland's breed std was written, it sometimes occurred in black & white...In the 1930s a group of breeders attempted to recreate that look. Their efforts eventually resulted in the Landseer."

And The Simon & Schuster Guide to Dogs adds "In the 1920s, the breed nearly disappeared, but German dog lovers 'reconstructed' it by crossing St. Bernards and Great Pyrenees." So it's not in fact the same breed. Huh. Interesting. Elf | Talk 19:44, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I moved this; just found this discussion checking the 'what links here'. Quill 10:11, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

from other Wikipedias

• with picture
• with picture Gangleri 23:37, 2004 Oct 21 (UTC)
• == Canaan Dog with picture Gangleri 00:21, 2004 Nov 1 (UTC)
• , Kyi Leo without picture Gangleri 11:19, 2004 Nov 1 (UTC)

Griffon Bruxellois and Belgian Griffon

On Affenpinscher Elf raised the issue of the discrepancy between Griffon Bruxellois and Belgian Griffon .

'Belgian Griffon/Griffon Belge : only recognised by the FCI

Google:

• 3,140 English pages for "Belgian Griffon"
• 491 English pages for "Griffon Belge"

Griffon Bruxellois/Brussels Griffon:

• AKC: Brussels Griffon
• ANKC:Griffon Bruxellois
• CKC: Griffon (Brussels)
• KC(UK): Griffon Bruxellios
• NZKC: Griffon Bruxellois

Google (although we would usually go on the above anyway):

• 39,600 English pages for "Brussels Griffon"
• 3,300 English pages for "Griffon Bruxellois"

Which is quite a discrepancy - but I still think we are doing the right thing in using the name used by three out of the five above KCs. this is a case where we will have to be very sure to get redirects set up though -- sannse (talk) 18:20, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Anyone recognize this breed?

Image:Berry & brandy.jpg -- A new user has uploaded an image for his personal photo album. The album was deleted, but maybe we can use the dog picture. Since you're the local dog-expert, do you recognize/can use the dog in Image:Berry & brandy.jpg? Currently it is listed on Wikipedia:Images for deletion. Thanks -- Chris 73 Talk 04:19, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC) (Reposted by Elf | Talk 15:56, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC) from my talk page.)

(shrugging) Long-haired GSD cross or Shiloh Shepherd cross? Quill 07:49, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Errors on FCI page

• group5 (FCI 5/4/97) Zwerspitz (Pomeranian) should be Zwergspitz. Gangleri 01:46, 2004 Nov 1 (UTC)

Romanian Shepherd Dogs

(My, WP is sloooowwww this morning.) Someone just added 3 Romanian Shepherd Dogs to the list. Another set to decide what names to use. :-) They're legit breeds; according to this Tripod site they're about to be recognized by the FCI. But they have a bunch of possible names; see this site on Molosser-and-related breeds. The first site indicates that the 3 should be Mioritic (old name Barac ), Carpatin (old name Zãvod ), and Ciobănesc de Bucovina , not simply Bucovina (dog) . Since they're rare breeds, guess we'll have to figure out which name to use--

• For Bucovina: BUKOVINA SHEPHERD (Ciobanesc Romanesc de Bucovina, Ciobanesc de Bucovina, Romanian Bukovina Sheepdog, Bukovina Wolfdog, Bukovinac, Bucovina Sheepdog)

NOTE: Bukovina (and redir from Bucovina) is a place name, so it looks like Ciobănesc de Bucovina would be the better name to use for the dog link. (Other choice would be Bucovina (dog) , which we can do also & put as a redirect, I suppose.)

• For Carpatin: CARPATHIAN SHEPHERD DOG (Ciobanesc Romanesc Carpatin, Romanian Carpathian Shepherd, Caine Ciobanesc Carpatian, Carpathian Sheepdog, Carpatin, Romanian Carpatin Herder, Rumanian Carpatin)
• For Mioritic: MIORITIC SHEEPDOG (Ciobanesc Romanesc de Mioritic, Romanian Mioritic Sheepdog, Mocano, Barac, Rumanian Barak)

Looks like it might also be worth having a page on Romanian shepherd dogs , although the Tripod site calls them Romanian sheep dogs . Thoughts? Also should have a page for Molossus (dog) . (Hmm, not in the books I'm currently looking at but I know I've encountered that category of breeds many times before.) Elf | Talk 19:09, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

New AKC FSS dogs

The Estrela Mountain Dog (Working group designation) and the Portuguese Podengo (Hound group designation) have also just been accepted into the AKC's FSS category. Elf | Talk 01:05, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Feedback wanted on Akita

Please review my proposed renames & moves on Talk:Akita Inu. Thanks. Elf | Talk 22:55, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)