Hi, here's my talk page. Feel free to put anything you want here. If it's here, then you can assume that I've seen it. It's my policy not to delete mostly any messages here, but please don't vandalize this page. I will revert obvious vandalism that obstructs other people's view of my page. Thanks in advance for leaving a message! The reason for this policy is that I believe comments on this page- even if it's an attack against me- offer insight into what other user's think of me.

This page has never been archived. For your reading pleasure, I don't plan to archive it. Scratch that, this page is getting huge. I will blank every 100 comments, with a link to each archival copy (I want to preserve the diffs that I've often use as 'evidence').

I reserve the right to make slight modifications to people's comments, providing that it doesn't change the meaning. I promise not to change the body of people's text, but I may sign it for them if they forgot (I'll put it in [brakets], and make a note of it somewhere). I also might move comments, or add titles to people's comments if they didn't do it themselves. Whatever I decide to change, will be an obvious modification, usually denoted by [brackets]. Signing under somebody else's name will not be tolerated. Do so, and your comment will be deleted without consideration.

This page was reverted once. I didn't see any reasonable way of preserving the message, and the user modified other people's comments.[1]

To everybody who posts here: Please sign your name with four tildes (like this: ~~~~). It makes it a lot easier for everybody (especially myself) to find out who said what. If you have something against time stamps, then I have no problem if you use three tildes, just make sure you post to the bottom of the page, so that everything is in chronological order.

(Archives: 1^bak)

admin

No, I'm not and haven't been one here. I tried a self-nomination once, but it failed. I am an admin on Simple: Wikipedia. -- Netoholic @ 01:51, 2005 Jan 18 (UTC)

[hi]

LUPO IS A FUCKING FAGGISH MOTHER FUCKER BY RYAN M [-24.244.192.130]

talk page was blanked, and this message was added. Title was chosen based on summary. Please see [2]

Vacuum

Why haven't you blocked Vacuum? It has broken the 3RR.--Jirate 16:15, 2005 Jan 22 (UTC)

[none]

what a fucker! [-24.62.31.167] [3]

Copyrights

While the paladin press page might have been copyrighted I just want to say that the articles on American Dragon and Isometric exercises were not found at the sites you specified. And I think that to an extent the widespread use of those articles across the internet is proof that there is no copyright. If you run a search of the text I posted you eill find it on multiple sites. And finally while I apoligize if I violated any copyrights my only intention was to get the articles started so others could edit them.--Gary123 23:27, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I also want to add that I believe all three of my articles are important enough to deserve to be in wikipedia one being a major printg press that was invovled in a major legal battle, the other an animated television series on a major network, and the third an important exercise use by one of the most famous exercising systems of all time Dynamic Tension by Charles atlas. For those reasons i think even if my information is copyrighted you should at least leave a small stub to start off those articles.--Gary123 23:38, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

When I said that I didn's copy them from the sites you specified what I meant was that they were taken from sites other than the ones you mentioned. Which means that these passages are pretty widespread across the internet especial the isometric exercise article which is word for world in a huge amount of websites.--Gary123 00:06, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC) == Headline text == == Headline text == == Headline text ==

I <nowiki>'d the above text. See [4] -Frazzydee|✍ 01:04, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Uh... O_O

I've gotten a message saying my IP did some sort of test? Huh?

Uh... Not me. I'm at a University, so it might be someone else. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

Thanks for the friendly reply. It startled me, because Ogdensburg is actually where I live. O_O

Quite odd.

Just the thing, though. My University is half an hour away from Ogdensburg. O_o

[none]

No, I didn't actually get blocked. This is vandalism. See [5] -Frazzydee|✍ 01:52, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

DanP

I don't know if DanP's [User talk:DanP|user talk] page is on your watchlist. It is currently on mine. He has asked you for evidence of the 3RR breach. I am not going to get involved, since I may say something I might regret (DanP frequently describes edits he disagrees with as vandalism - a habit I find infuriating). - Jakew 22:22, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

DanP's violation of the 3RR

If you look on his Talk: page, you'll note he was warned about this already back on December 16, 2004, so it's not like he doesn't know. As well, rather than being contrite, or suggesting he wouldn't do it again, he characterized his reverts as removing "vandalism", when he was clearly involved in an edit war. I have little patience for people who deliberately violate the 3RR, particularly when they do it with disingenuous excuses. Jayjg | (Talk) 23:15, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

A possible 3RR-violation

A friend asked me to point out these four reverts by Jakew in a twenty four our period. This is only the second time I ever tattled about 3RR and the othertime was to help to add some weight to the more serious issue of personal attacks. I generally let this sort of thing slide, but my friend really would like me to report this for him. So now, here it goes:

On medical analysis of circumcision Jakew made these edits:

1. 16:39, 24 Jan 2005 revert to 23:18, 23 Jan 2005
2. 20:32, 24 Jan 2005 revert to 18:23, 24 Jan 2005
3. 01:00, 25 Jan 2005 revert to 20:32, 24 Jan 2005
4. 13:09, 25 Jan 2005 revert to 12:44, 25 Jan 2005

Those are revert pairs. He has several version to which he reverts at random. He has four pairs there to which he reverted. Whether that counts as four reverts, I leave for you to decide.

¡Thanks!

--

Ŭalabio 01:55, 2005 Jan 26 (UTC)

WP:AN/Navbox

You might want to check out WT:AN#Navboxes. Noel (talk) 03:26, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Reference List

Hi: Stumbled across the reference/cite check talk by accident. I'm new. Haven't contributed much; latest was Degenerate art Zosodada reverted & ripped me to shreds in less than 72 hours. I'm still perspiring, but that article looks nth degree encyclopedic now. I had to dig like a dog - my literary cites weren't convincing. Since I also spend a lot of time on the Ref Desk, I started my own list by "web farming" & categorizing: Arts; Business; News; Law; Inflation calculators - everything I can find. I just started; tedious checking links & determining they're useful. Something I tossed 2 days ago I needed the next. Is this helpful for your project, or a wasted effort? Naturally, I didn't set the page up right: Allie/Wikipedia Reference Desk. --allie 23:59, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Sorry that the project lost momentum. Noticed that there is a Category:Reference & Category:Sources currently existing. many of my links overlap; but also found many that aren't on the list- ArtLex one example of a compendium that is valuable for fact checking. Also bumped into an error on ballet page - it's not "America Ballet Co." - it's "American Ballet Co." - and it's a video dictionary. Guess I should request a speedy delete of my page, then? --allie 13:41, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Strange edit at User talk:63.171.166.140

Hi. Did you make this edit on User talk:63.171.166.140? Or did someone make an edit on a machine you were using before you logged out? Wondering, -- Infrogmation 02:53, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

FA by Mail

Hi, Frazzydee. Thanks for reviving the Featured Article by Mail! Out of interest, I downloaded Kate's script, and it runs fine on my cygwin (a unix shell for windows) install, so if you ever need a vaykay, feel free to drop me a line. (Happy Belate-late-lated birthday!) — MikeX (talk) 12:07, Jan 28, 2005 (UTC)

3RR

Eek! Thanks for letting me know. (duplicated on my user page). - Jakew 17:17, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Nicky Jam

• I didn't insert the page on Nicky Jam . It was a newbie test that was somehow preserved by my insertion of the speedy notice. Thank you for mentioning that I preserved it, but it was completely unknown by me and accidental. Bart133 17:51, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

TFD

Sorry for any misunderstandings, there were two entries on TfD that said 'Template:Content dispute', so I removed one of them. [[User:Vacuum|]] 23:51, Jan 29, 2005 (UTC)

Re: James Cleverly

I think you have the wrong individual. Maybe you mean Rd232? - user:defunkt 18:37, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Even though you're the first person to leave me a message by mistake because of my welcome template, I'm surprised more people haven't. I could easily see myself doing the same thing, especially during the late hours I usually edit. I'm going to change the sentence in question to something else and hope I don't cause this kind of confusion in the future. And wow, over 1,000 contribs. Thank you for your dedication =) People like you make this site the invaluable resource it is for people like me, who barely (or don't) contribute but visit multiple times every day. - user:defunkt 23:05, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Rael

You must admit it was a little funny. [-128.146.141.194]

Request

Request

Hi Frazzydee. I wonder if I could ask for your help with something. A few days ago, User:Fvw set a block on me, which I believe was inappropriate. As far as I can tell, I didn't violate any policies, and the owner of the page concerned has since affirmed my beliefs. I'm trying to discuss this with Fvw, but I'm not having much luck. Please could you have a look at my attempt to discuss this, and tell me if I'm being unreasonable. If I'm not, could you try to talk to him on my behalf? Thanks. (I've also asked User:Geni) - Jakew 21:37, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your response. I don't agree that what I did was wrong, and DanP doesn't seem to think so either (I guess since it's his user page he gets the last word...). Either way, it certainly wasn't user page vandalism as currently defined. My frustration at present is more with Fvw's arrogant refusal to discuss the matter than with the block itself - although I feel wronged, I can put it in the past if we could at least talk about it. Sorry - not your problem, I know. Anyway, thanks again for your comments, though I respectfully disagree. - Jakew 22:19, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Moved image

Thanks very much for the help and the tip. :) -Wild Bill 19:36, Feb 2, 2005 (UTC)

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haie frazzdydee,

i translated your page .. just I dont know what the FA-Mail list means .. so i could not translate it ;o).. if you want to have it translated please tell me on my talk page! (I'm not watching your TP ....) ...Sicherlich 04:09, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

okay got it and changed the translation ;) .. "Artikel des Tages" it is in German ...for your idea; i have no oppinion on that .. but Apper tranlsted your offer; wish you the best for your idea! CU ...Sicherlich 04:30, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Image:Joseph McCarthy.jpg

Why did you remove protection from this image? It is going to be on the Main Page soon. --mav 18:14, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)

NP :) --mav

User page revert

Thanks for reverting my user page after it was diapered by Bro. Larry and his mother/maid/friend/brother/or whatever member of the family he's naming himself after now. Joyous 22:21, Feb 7, 2005 (UTC)

cite sources?

hi Faraaz -- what are we to use in place of now? dab (ᛏ) 19:59, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)

thank you! Template:Unreferenced looks like it is going to stay with us, btw. regards, dab (ᛏ) 07:31, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Hi: Are you familiar with citing reference sourcework? I just made my 1st edit change, and my information contradicts what's in the article on Sylvester Graham. How do I check this? My reference is pretty good, I think: It's an Oxford Companion Encyclopedia. Also, I would be very interested to know what kinds of guidelines you use for plagiarism? Is listing a reference book enough? This is a sticky wicket with me, and I am very particular about this. Thank you, new user Otto. --Otto 21:56, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

->Thanks! Appreciated all those links & your double-check; it was very thoughtful, as it appears you are a busy person. I like the way you footnoted, but unfortunately, it's not on my special pages link. ->You shouldn't have to do my work for me... ->Ergo, my second question: Is there a magic place in the Wikipedia where I can read up & find out about citations, how to footnote, and how not to become Template:Unreferenced? The Manual of Style doesn't say how (Hot dang! Italics!) or where to put refs in the article you're working on?!?! It seems silly to have to double-check without them. ->What do you do? Look for well-polished writing and then think, hmmm...I'd better check this? That sounds like a double-negative to me. Then only sloppy, careless writing is rewarded, yet someone who does a lot of research and spends the effort to write an excellent piece (say, offline in Word) would be suspect, because a whole page suddenly appeared out of the blue. Hmph. ->I did stumble across the page on Wikipedia where you were determining what to do about referencing. Are you the coordinator, and may I become involved? or am I too new? ->Thank you for your help once again, and I don't mean to take up too much of your time with my questions. --Otto 02:40, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC) I'm not formatting this the right way, am I? Sorry. Off to the sandbox now.

Are you familiar with BookRags? Bookrags Literary References it's a pay site, but has quick, authorative bios: Alphabetical Index "G" Otto 12:47, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Cheap little bastard

I am afraid I must take the moral high ground with respect to this comment you left on my talk page. You did not footnote or leave any reference to confirm that you are indeed a "cheap little bastard." I searched this in Google and I couldn't find any confirmation. Your sources, please? Otto 04:07, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)

heh, heh. Glad that you took it in the spirit it was meant :0 You've been a great introduction to Wikipedia and your enthusiasm as well as your sense of humor is much appreciated! I am looking forward to contributing more on Wikipedia now, and perhaps one day, I too will proclaim that Wikipedia is my God for the source of wisdom...and thus become a member of the self-proclaimed "CLB" club! --Otto 18:25, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Fact and Reference Check

I added the section == List of articles that have been referenced == on the main page because I wanted to see some articles that have been referenced. I don't think we have any yet :(. Do you know any completed articles that have been referenced actually on Wikipedia so I can see how it was done and apply it to articles I want to reference? --ShaunMacPherson 19:13, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Doug Malloy

I was looking at that page, it seems that he may have been a significant figure, although the content was clearly nonsense. Several pages link there, although I am not 100% convinced they should. What do you think? Rich Farmbrough 02:49, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I came to it from the VfD page. I am not sure whether this is notable or verifiable - I found some internet sources but they are hard to verify. I guess if it's worthwhile it will reappear in a better form. Rich Farmbrough 08:48, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Milgaard Page

Thanks for the encouragement, I actually did an ISU on Milgaard, Morin and a few other cases of Canadians wrongfully convicted a couple years ago and just found the old documents on my computer, so decided to run through them quickly and hopefully update some Wikipedia pages with the info I'd dug up on them...while bored I actually then went and made a page for Milgaard's lawyer that I've seen in the paper several times for various things (Hersh Wolch) It's always encouraging though when you take time out of your day to update a wikipedia reference, to know that somebody's actually seen it, and it's not just lost and useless in cyberspace :) btw, this is actually my first time using these talk pages, so I could be doing it completely wrong...guess I'll find out when I hit "save" :) --Sherurcij 06:55, Mar 13, 2005 (UTC)

Thank you!

I edited the brackets in wikilaser1.png that said "unspecified" to say "public domain". I hope that is how I am supposed to do it. I did the art, but its nothing precious-- so I assumed when I uploaded it that it would become wiki's property. Thank you for pointing out my options. --Kittyslave 08:56, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Thanks mate :-)

So many people keep telling me that! I had no idea so many people were watching me admin... :P Anyway, I'll probably pop into IRC every now and again, but not too often as I'm thinking about doing a correspondence course, getting a new job and spending more time at my church. I have lots of people to look after in the outside world to be honest, and I reckon Wikipedia will do OK without me. But I'll be watching the site with a great deal of interest - and I might even do the odd edit. Take care, ok? - Ta bu shi da yu 10:37, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)

TfD janitors

Hi, if you have this in hand, I'll stay out of your way (unless you'd like help there). Also. may I point you at Wikipedia:Cleaning department#Wikipedia:Templates for deletion; if you're going to continue on with taking care of TfD, you might want to note that there so people know it's covered. Thanks! Noel (talk) 14:41, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

What is something good to work on?

Any topics need a helping hand?

Fact and Reference, redux

I see your recent note on my talk page expecting that members of this project will actively participate in the weekly work of checking. I joined the project to discuss strategies, not to do this particular type of work on articles outside my areas of expertise.

Should I take my name off of the list of participants? (Most WikiProjects do not have specific expectations on their members, and I guess I was unaware of this one when I signed up.) -- Jmabel | Talk 20:22, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. -- Jmabel | Talk 20:38, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)

Messages

For some reason, I received a message saying that I was blanking large portions of text. Considering it's taken me about five minutes to even figure out how to leave a message for you on this page, I'd suggest you check your logs again before accusing me of such things.

Yo, Frazz!

Man, is it ever great to hear from you! Your message cheered me up. I've been spending entirely too much time fighting vandals and hanging around the "newpages" section for my own good. Driving myself nuts. Glad you're back...stay in touch! Don't make me come to Toronto to give you a noogie. - Lucky 6.9 19:03, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your message

This article is wrong in fact. There are affadavits that say this. I did what you asked and it got removed. This is biased reporting in the worse way.

Thank you

Thank you for supporting my adminship — I vow to use my super powers for good not evil. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 10:03, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks also

for putting me right on CSD. I was under the impression, obviously mistaken, that blatant adverts came into the criteria. However I only nominate articles which always means that someone else looks at them before they are deleted. ping 08:18, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

revert 2620s

thanks for reverting to my ({del}} tag on 2620s DDerby 01:47, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Down the memory hole

This comment originally appeared in Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) 10:54, 2005 Apr 7 (UTC). It was not only removed from the Pump, but from the Pump's history itself -- pure Orwellian censorship, and not by a common user, either.

If you think this is unacceptable, I hope you will work to preserve not only these remarks, but to discover the actor who obliterated them. — Xiongtalk 03:14, 2005 Apr 10 (UTC)

I have struck my charge of Orwellian revisionism; just because they're out to get you doesn't mean you're not paranoid. At the time I posted several copies of this around the project, I actually did fear that someone would systematically delete it without a trace.

You may wish to delete the box itself and replace with a link to User:Xiong/Minitrue. I will not consider that revisionism.— Xiong熊talk 23:44, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)

Netoholic's move

Thank you for retrieving that interesting log. What do you think it means? How did Netoholic manage to also remove the automatic temporary redirect? Did he have assistance? Can his Big Buddy be identified? Does Netoholic's action violate his temporary injunction against some types of reversion? — Xiong熊talk 23:41, 2005 Apr 11 (UTC)

Merged fragmented discussion to: User:Xiong/Metahole. You may want to remove this entire section -- but of course, keep the WikiThanks! — Xiong熊talk 04:49, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)

Convention

Would you consider a Charter Convention? — Xiong熊talk 02:07, 2005 Apr 12 (UTC)

X-Play Edits

IMO, I felt that the data on the show's schticks were kind of useless information. If anyone else thinks its worthwhile to keep in there, go for it. --Thewastedsmile 03:04, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

DYK image

Oops, I usually do it, but I totally forgot to protect this time. Sorry. (Did you unprotect the old image as listed on the talk page?) Mgm|^(talk) 20:28, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Why did sandbot...

do this? Just curious :) -Frazzydee|✍ 22:52, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ah. The unfortunate side effect of processing a page. The time that it takes for Sandbot to get a page and process it has a lag time of about a minute or so. Therefore, when it attempts to re-enforce the existing header, the page in its cache is stale. I'm thinking a way to revert that. -- AllyUnion (talk) 23:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Ah... I found the problem... The lag time is due to the fact that it gets two pages in a row. I moved it, so that it will attempt to process and post immediately. Hopefully, the bot won't run into that problem again. -- AllyUnion (talk) 23:12, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Fact and Reference Check

Hi Frazzydee,

Excellent work on the Fact and Reference checks and organization, esp. the article on Titan's Moon and now the current one on the Egyptian pyramids. I'll take a look at the formatting for each of these and try out doing some fact checks :). It is good we have a format in place to get it rolling and people will realize they can do referencing and start doing it to all articles. I think the momentum is starting to pick up.

As well, I notice that the list of members in FARC is organized by when they joined. Would a less POV version be alphabetic? We want new members to feel as important as old members, so we can get them working :P.

--ShaunMacPherson 21:43, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hi again

Yes, I'm trying to do this right now. I'm still learning how to do it all. But thanks for the offer.

deleted page

Thanks for the message. I remember moving the page to his User space from something like 'Template:Not notable', but I'd not normally delete anything in user space unless the creator asked for it to be. (Why didn't he use 'subst'?)

I've been cutting my Watchlist, but it's still 2,364 pages... Yes, I need to cut it a lot more if I'm going to retain any sanity. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 22:47, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)

LupinBot

Hi, please unblock my IP address. I think it is unreasonable to put an indefinite ban on my IP address simply because I was unaware that I had to get permission to run a bot (which was only uploading images).

I will not run the bot until I have completed the necessary bureaucratic processes. Lupin 00:19, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for unblocking my IP. Unfortunately I still can't edit from that IP address. Could you look into this? Lupin 00:35, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Spoken

I'll be getting a mic soon, but my voice is pretty bad. You can contribute in the way I have, by editing others' contributions to delete weird pauses, or stutters, or anything that can clean up the speech. For an example, see the original and updated links at the bottom of the ; I got rid of 35 seconds of weird pauses, etc. You might try doing the History of the World audio file for a test. Just make sure you reencode it at the same kbps so that there isn't too much loss. As for the template, this was a consensus/compromise between myself, Raul654, and some of the other Spoken Wikipedia members, who all agree that it is fine. It might be a little redundant, but we're trying to increase the project popularity, so maybe we can consider changing this when we get a lot more people and articles. --brian0918™ 02:08, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Blocks

Thanks! Refdoc 00:42, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

4×post

No problem - those sorts of glitches happen to us all from time to time: saw it; fixed it :) -- ALoan (Talk) 14:56, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)