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Icelandic Sheepdogs

Hi Reinhardt!

I improved your russian article about "Icelandic Sheepdogs" because it was not good enough to name it as "article", so I had a choice - either delete it or improve it. I decided that it's better to improve it :) Indeed I'm not suach a dog-fancier, at least I have no dog at home, but when I was a child I had a German Shepherd, he was really smart dog.

In Russian Wikipedia there is a lack of articles about dogs, I hope it will be changed soon.

About Коикерхондье (Kooiker Dog) you may read at:

http://demo.e-dog.ru/dogs.phtml?dog=283&pos=24&abc=%CA

I know that you cannot read Russian but you can authomatically translate text using online services like http://babel.altavista.com/

If you need my assistance please write to me at my Russian or English talk pages.

Greetings, Maxim

Pictures of your dogs

• I looked around the website, and didn't see any that were better than the one nominated for featured picture status. Just look for more opportunities to take more pictures with a good camera, in good light of the entire dog, preferably in some sort of great pose, like in the nominated picture. It was just the grass in front of the dog that I found distracting. And, the higher resolution, the better. - [[User:Bevo|Bevo]] 05:28, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thanks Bewo! I moved your answer to my talks. Regards Gangleri 12:27, 2004 Sep 25 (UTC)

re:dog photos

I think you need to read the featured picture guidelines, basically a featured picture must be technically good and make a significant number of folks watching say "wow". Don't take it personally that your photo is rejected. Dunc_Harris|☺ 12:42, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Global all Wikipedias Whatlinkshere

No, there is not, only with Google, like http://www.google.com/search?q=link:http%3A%2F%2Fen%2Ewikipedia%2Eorg%2Fwiki%2FWikipedia (does not give a complete list).--Patrick 04:22, 2004 Sep 26 (UTC)

Most perfect magic squares (1)

answers to User talk:Robinh#Most-perfect magic square:

Halló Robin, I saw the article and want to say Halló! At [1] (http://www.geocities.com/~harveyh/most-perfect.htm) the name is David Brée not Bree. I worked also on these squares and read about the work of Dame Kathleen Ollerenshaw and David Brée later. I was contacting Harvey Heinz some weeks ago but could not find the work of Ollerenshaw and Brée. Do you know where to get this book? I stoped working at [2] (http://easy.go.is/gangleri/ferningar/) about four weeks ago. I generate only some straight forward patterns. Just take a look. Regards Gangleri 07:53, 2004 Sep 27 (UTC)

Hi Gangleri

thanks for these comments. I'll change Bree to Brée when I get a minute. The book is not available at Amazon, although there is a listing for it (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/090509106X/qid=1096283450/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9972703-6880715?v=glance&s=books).

I know your webpage quite well! I'm particularly interested in magic hypercubes. I am writing a suite of magic square tools in the R programming language; do you know R?

best wishes Robinh 11:15, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

WikiMagic

answers to User talk:MacGyverMagic/WikiMagic/Gangleri:

I should've seen those entries from you ages ago. Thanks for contributing. Anyway, I haven't had time to read through the entire thing, but from a quick glance I think some of it could fall under Mathematical magic . I'll archive your work in a subpage of the page it was originally posted on, to keep the page itself clean from article type entries. The WikiMagic talk page is for discussion only.

Don't let me moving your work, stop you from editing it :) [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 19:26, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

I've finished the move. Your contributions to WikiMagic can now be found at User talk:MacGyverMagic/WikiMagic/Gangleri. [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm|^(talk)]] 19:38, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

Most perfect magic square (2)

answers to User talk:Robinh#Most-perfect magic square:

Hi Gangleri. Example of a 12x12 most perfect (magic) square follows:

> Ollerenshaw

     [,1] [,2] [,3] [,4] [,5] [,6] [,7] [,8] [,9] [,10] [,11] [,12]
 [1,]   64   92   81   94   48   77   67   63   50    61    83    78
 [2,]   31   99   14   97   47  114   28  128   45   130    12   113
 [3,]   24  132   41  134    8  117   27  103   10   101    43   118
 [4,]   23  107    6  105   39  122   20  136   37   138     4   121
 [5,]   16  140   33  142    0  125   19  111    2   109    35   126
 [6,]   75   55   58   53   91   70   72   84   89    86    56    69
 [7,]   76   80   93   82   60   65   79   51   62    49    95    66
 [8,]  115   15   98   13  131   30  112   44  129    46    96    29
 [9,]  116   40  133   42  100   25  119   11  102     9   135    26
[10,]  123    7  106    5  139   22  120   36  137    38   104    21
[11,]  124   32  141   34  108   17  127    3  110     1   143    18
[12,]   71   59   54   57   87   74   68   88   85    90    52    73
> is.mostperfect(Ollerenshaw)
[1] TRUE
> 

(I've just cut-n-pasted it onto the most-perfect wikipage).

I'm putting together a package of computer software for magic square research, using R, and I have a few routines for most perfect (magic) squares.

Cheers

Robinh 14:43, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hello again Gangleri.

Google's never wrong! One day I'll get round to fleshing out that most-perfect (magic) squares page!

best

Robinh 08:08, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Featured picture candidates resolution and size

answers to User talk:Angela now User talk:Gangleri/archive 01#Featured picture candidates resolution and size:

Hi. I don't think I really am the best person to ask since I don't really care about the resolution as long as the size is at least 300px width for picture of the day. In my opinion, the vast majority of images on Wikipedia are completely unsuitable for print, so objecting to candidates on that basis is not something I would do, although Eloquence and others have done so in the past. I expect as high a resolution as you can manage would be best, but I have no strong opinion on this and can only suggest you look at some of the other featured pictures and see what the standard is, but I expect it varies widely. Angela. 23:28, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

Interlanguage categories

answers to User talk:Angela now User talk:Gangleri/archive 01#relatated to categories in different languages:

Hi, I think adding interlanguage links to categories is very useful and I see no reason not to do this. I realize there are difficulties in finding categories in other Wikipedias, and I don't know of any page that attempts to make this easier. However, it would be a very worthwhile project to create something like a page which aims to give translations of the words used for category across the languages, and also promote interlanguage collaboration. I guess this is what you've started at . Meta: would be the best place for a cross-project page where people could help with this. I think it could be maintained simply as a wiki page rather than a database, but perhaps I don't quite understand what you are intending to do?

The Multilingual speedy deletions page already gives translations for the {{delete}} tag, so perhaps something similar could be set up for other common tags.

Personally, I like the idea of using the same icon across projects to help people know what the template is, but I think you'd find it difficult to convince people across projects to use the same icon, or even to use an icon at all. See Template talk:Delete#Image poll for example.

Angela. 03:12, Oct 3, 2004 (UTC)

answers to User talk:Zoney#Irish language:

Níl aon ailt faoi madraí ar ga: faoi lathair! - We don't have any articles on dogs on ga: at the moment. zoney ♣ talk 13:01, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Icelandic Sheepdog

answers to Isländsk fårhund

Hi! You contacted me at the Swedish Wikipedia about the Icelandic Sheepdog and asked me if I had one. Yes, I have a shorthaired cream and white. // Liftarn

Ligatures

answers to User talk:Io: and Norse saga:

Hi!

I am pleased to meet you. All the examples you mention on the page

http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660

should indeed be an oe-ligature. The two ligatures were pronounced differently in Old Norse, although they later merged in Icelandic. Oe-ligature was the result of an umlaut with ó as the original vowel, whereas ae-ligature was an umlaut of á. As for browsers displaying or not displaying characters correctly, I would advise you to go to

http://www.mozilla.org

and download their latest stable version. It beats Internet Explorer by leaps and bounds.

I'm going to watch a tv-programme now, but I'll get back to you later.

All the best Io 22:03, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

As I am curious ...

answers to User talk:Io: and Norse saga:

... how did you come to develop an interest in Icelandic? If you need any pointers regarding that language, just post them on my talk page. I'm equally fluent in German and English so you can pick the language. (I envy you your knowledge of Russian, however. It's long been a goal of mine to learn one Slavic and one Baltic language, but you know how it is, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. :) Cheers Io 18:21, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)

From Mike(z)

answers to :

Sorry, I think you were unable to mail me because I obviously had disabled user mail on en:... I have enabled it by now. Conserning your question about IRC, I don't know very much about it, so I can only say that I use Mozilla Firefox, and have installed the extension ChatZilla. After that, it should not be any problems to enter #sv.wikipedia == [irc://irc.freenode.net/sv.wikipedia #sv.wikipedia] through the link you entered. If you use Iexplorer or anything else, I don't know what program you need to install. \Mikez ()

Thanks Mike Gangleri 17:53, 2004 Oct 9 (UTC)

You're welcome \Mikez

Hi there

answers to User talk:OlofE#It is early morning:

Hi there! First, there's precious little dating for early runestones. There are quite a few that are of the oldest varieties, my guess would be between 300-500 of them (though one could look at hard data instead of guessing, but I don't have it at hand). How many of those are still standing in their original position is just impossible to know but hardly more than a couple dozen. I'm pretty bad at Norwegian stones so I better not guess at the status of that stone.

"My page" - Heh, I'm not sure which page you're talking about here. Assuming it's not something outside wikipedia, I'll guess it's the futhark page, which I did indeed start, long, long ago - however, I cannot in any way claim any glory for what's on that page now. I don't think a single word remains of my writing:-) In fact, "futhark" was just a redirect to another page last I looked. So - I'm glad you enjoy it but don't thank me, talk to all the editors of the page (dozens of them, IIRC). The article has a discussion tab as well where you can discuss its contents with whatever authors are active on the article. Finally, pardon me for being slow in answering, I'm not very active on the English wikipedia nowadays (whatever time I have available to spend on wikipedia goes to the Swedish edition). Cheers, // OlofE 13:30, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

M.İdrisi @

answers to :

• M.İdrisi mentioned at in not the same person, Mansur İdrisi is Tatar.
• But at and is the same person. :)
• Mainer Meinung nach, hier gibt es ein Fehler [1], oder al-Sarif, oder al-Sharif. Arabischer Sarf bedeutet Veränderung, tatarischer Sarıf bedeutet Morphologie auch. Das Wort İdris bedeutet Ausbildung und Eifrer. İdrisi ist Adjektiv von İdris.

About Idrisi in Arabistas

answers to :

Hola Gangleri:

My english is not good and I don´t understand you very well. I think is interesting Idrisi for arabistas.

Can you write about this matter in our Café ? Thank you--Sanbec 07:18, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I have moved your questions to . Regards. --Sanbec 06:58, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Muhammad al-Idrisi (former Idrisi)

answers to User talk:Dbachmann#Arabic names and Talk:Muhammad al-Idrisi:

Man sollte sich wirklich auf einheitliche Umschriften einigen, nicht nur fuer Arabisch, sondern auch fuer Griechisch, Indisch, Japanisch, Chinesisch usw. Aber das ist mir eine zu grosse Aufgabe, und ich begnuege mich damit, Alternaiven als redirects zu linken. Im Fall "Idrisi" waere ein Titel "Al-Idrisi" wirklich besser. Niemand nennt ihn "Idrisi", und nach der Konvention, Vor- und Nachnamen zu nennen, waere der Titel Muhammad al-Idrisi am besten. dab 09:37, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I added my mustard as requested :P – my aim on WP is to add content, though, and a project to enforce consistent spelling is not something I am prepared to invest too much sweat in... tt can *not* be done in one day, and even if exact guidelines were in place, if they are too complicated, people will tend to ignore them. dab 21:48, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

RE: Peticiones

answers from :

Welcome Gangleri, it's a pleasure to be able to colaborate with an en wiki member. Whenever I can help you let me know :)--80.58.10.107 21:04, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)Anna.

Hello Gangleri, I read the talks about The little Prince and maybe you find this page useful: http://www.getxoweb.com/Principito/indexprince.html it's a nice page and you can download the whole text in PDF as well. it might be useful to add it as an external link for an article about The Little Prince. It's only in Spanish but I'll try to find something else in English, I've read there is not much about it though. Regards. Anna--80.58.10.107 18:11, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Abwesenheit

Grüß Dich!

Du verzeihst mir hoffentlich, wenn ich keinem während der nächsten Tage antworten kann. Ich bis bis frühestens Sonntag dienstlich abwesend ohne Internetzugang. Bis dann, und alles Beste. Io 12:47, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

wiki.pt

answers to :

Hi there Gangleri. Here is Brian from the portuguese wikipedia . Concerning your first question, unfortunalety, i really dont know who could do it. About the second one, our wiki is too small yet, and if i understood correctly what you want, the only articles he wave about dogs, are Cão , and the links Boxer , Labrador and São Bernardo . Finally, i've just added right now the translation of thanks in portuguese (obrigado) to the wiktionary. Greetins from Sacavém, Portugal. Brian Boru 00:16, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Finnish Wikipedia

This is an answer to , which is an answer to : I'm more interested in categorizing articles than writing about dogs. I considered moving the dog breed articles to their own subcategory, if you didn't understand my writing. -Hapsiainen 21:53, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC), who is the same person as Jean d'Arc in Finnish Wikipedia.

Please, don't put in my talk page any more links to projects and categories you found interesting. I already have plans what to do in Wikipedia. They often change, when I found something interesting or annoying. But you can't change them like that, and you shouldn't. By the way, I remember that visitors from German Wikipedia have already notified us of in the Finnish Village Pump.

Still about Finnish dog categories. The Finnish Wikipedia haven't yet formed rules about categorization. It must form them, because people will become tired of current insconsistency between e.g. singular and plural. So expect some catagory names to change in future. -Hapsiainen 12:18, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

WikiCommons

I am posting it here, because I assume you'll look here more often than on your Dutch userpage. Regarding your questions on my Dutch userpage :

It is currently still necessary to cross-upload. There are plans to change that, and make it possible to use images that have been uploaded on Commons on other projects directly. I hope this will be available in MediaWiki 1.4 (the next version of the software, that seems to be close to beta release). - Andre Engels 08:28, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)

There is no Category "dog breeds" in the Dutch Wikipedia. The dog breeds are in , which corresponds to Category:Dogs. - Andre Engels 08:34, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Categorization

Hi, got your note but am not clear on your purpose. Are you talking about changing the category system? If so, then Wikipedia:Categorization is the place to ask about that. Stan 03:17, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

From The Dogfather

You wrote that you understand Spanish and Italian. Do you think you would be able to make a stub for Italian Greyhound?

Potrei provare a scrivere un articolo in italiano. Tuttavia, è una cosa a parlare un po di una lingua; altro a scrivere intelligentemente in uno.

Podría intentar escribir un artículo en español. Sin embargo, es una cosa para hablar un poco de una lengua; otros a escribir inteligente en uno.

Ich könnte versuchen, Artikel in andere Sprachen zu schreiben. Jedoch es ist eine Sache, ein bißen einer Sprache zu sprechen; andere, in eins intelligent zu schreiben.

If any of these translate well, let me know.The Dogfather 19:58, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ich wille versuche mein bestes.The Dogfather 02:35, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Heimskringla & Egil @ sv:

I created a stub for Egil at and fixed the duplicate for . Don't hesitate to ask if there's something else you'd like me to do. // OlofE 07:49, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Norse saga

I can not find a corresponding article on the Norwegian wikipedias to the article "Norse saga". A Norwegian term could be "Norrøn sagalitteratur", while most of them being "Islendingesaga", "Islendingesoge" or "Icelandic Saga". Gunnernett 12:25, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Egils saga

Sorry, I don't have any expertise in this area. I was only merging some duplicated page histories. While we're about it though - could you tell me if Egil's saga is a valid wikilink? Should the inverted comma be there?! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:25, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

P.S. I speak a few words on Mandarin, but overall I'm crap at other languages. Don't let the username fool you! - Ta bu shi da yu 14:26, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Regarding Béla Bartók in tr wiki

Hi. I don't think we have a Béla Bartók article in Turkish Wikipedia, so those links are superflous. cheers, at0 21:03, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

dogs and tree of life on Chinese wiki

Dogs aren't as common as pets in China as rest of the the world (esepecially the United States). Most city people live in cramped apartments that does not allow for dogs. I checked the articles, there aren't any about breeds of dogs.

粤菜 is about cantonese cooking, dispelliing the myth that dogs is a common dish (it's actually illegal in most Chinese areas). 犬科 is the lupine genus. Category:小作品 is stubs.

I'd be happy to help with the interwiki links for the tree of life project. Once in a while I go through the articles top down to add interwiki links and taxo boxes. Lately I've been busy working on categorization, as well as some other offline reporting, so I havne't done much lately. If you have any specific questions and doubts, please let me know.

Also please note that Chinese wiki uses one of the older taxonomy methods, especially around fish and birds . I don't know what the English name of those are, but the layering and divisions are often different from what I see in English and Japanese wiki until you get to the genus level.

I also operate one of the two on Chinese wiki. Between me and the other person who has a bot , any links that you put onto other wiki should be picked up within a couple of weeks, so you don't need to add them manually here. Do you know if Latin wiki has an interwiki bot operator yet? I don't see one on the list. It's very useful if you have users actively adding interwiki links.

--Vina 06:18, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'll add the three dog pages to the Chinese translation request page . If someone who knows dogs don't translate it, I'll try it in a week or two. --Vina 10:12, 31 Oct 2004 (UTC)

wikiproject dogs

While I'm not what I would call an "active" participant in the Wikiproject at the moment, I'm certainly interested. I'll go check out the questions. Sadly, English is the only language in which I have even a reasonable amount of fluency. :( I will be going to a very large dog show in February, and will be bringing my digital camera. I should be able to take pictures of 100 or so breeds, so that should be able to fill out a lot of our articles with pictures. --Dante Alighieri | Talk 07:41, Nov 2, 2004 (UTC)

Sagokung

Dear Vigleif, I want to let you know about . When it is fixed I will tray to find some related pages from other Wikipedias.

It is intentional. The Swedish article sagokung corresponds to two articles in the English version.--Vigleif 6 november 2004 kl.00.29 (CET)

Re: Interwiki

Saluton Gangleri! Bedaŭrinde, mi ne parolas aŭ komprenas la germanan lingvon - mi preskaŭ tute forgesis ĝin ekde ni forlasis el germanio. Mi kontrolis viajn demandojn... Mi ne povas trovi hebrean artikolon por Juan Luís Vives, kaj ne ekzistas kategorio por Islando en la hebrea vikipedio. Tamen, se vi rigardas la kategorion por eŭropajn landojn, estas multaj da subkategorioj por aliaj landoj, do se vi povus krei kategorion por Islando se vi volus (tie ). Espereble ĉi tiu estas helpema por vi! [[User:Nadavspi|]] 01:47, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Wikcinario Administrators

I got a request from you to make Pybalo and Lourdes Administrators on the Spanish Wiktionary. Checking, I see Pybalo is already an Administrator, and whereas Lourdes is not, there is one 'Lourdes Cardinal' Administrator. Is that the same person, or should I still be making Lourdes an Admin? - Andre Engels 12:59, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Oops, you're right... Regarding the bot: This specific bot is not one that I have used or worked upon, so I cannot say much about it. - Andre Engels 15:22, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

This specific bot is mostly the work of . Another good place to discuss it would be the pywikipediabot-mailing list (see http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=93107 ) - Andre Engels 15:34, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Dog race project

Gangleri, I believe you posted something about dogs on my swedish user page, and on others.

Yes, I think I may take part in a project about dog races, but presently I am involved in many things, so I can not garantee the volume, but I can give it a try. Its often fast to find me on my swedish user page. Ich bin geburtige schwede aber wohnen in Wien. Ehemalig stallmeister am Circus Krone in München. Dan Koehl 14:50, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Multiple Redirects

I don't think it is necessary to keep track of multiple redirects. The obvious way to deal with them is to edit all redirects to point to the real article, e.g. if A redirects to B & B redirects to C, you just have to edit A to redirect to C directly. I don't think there is any possibility of a better thing to do, at least with multiple redirects, per se. Under which title the article must finally be located is a different issue that could be settled in the talk pages/IRC/whatever but while that's being debated, doing the above is the right thing AFAICT. BTW just in case you agree with me, that page probably must be deleted. -- Paddu 18:42, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Why "Wikipedia:Multiple Redirects"? See . Gangleri 23:00, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)

• I've added a comment (to ) there .

Thanks Paddu for your comments. Regards Gangleri 23:25, 2004 Nov 10 (UTC)

aisl. / NOTOC

ahoi Gangleri. betreffend NOTOC / TOC habe ich ehrlich gesagt keine Meinung. Ich sehe, dass so ein ellenlanges Inhaltsverzeichnis nicht sehr ästhetisch ist (siehe hier für ein extremes Beispiel), andererseits ist das ein Problem, das systematisch gelöst werden sollte (und kann), und nicht mit Handarbeit an einzelnen Texten... Re isl. Diakritika, den Texten die ich hochgeladen habe, habe ich aus purer en: -Gewohnheit Diakritika-lose Titel gegeben, das kann man ohne weiteres ändern. Gruss, dab 08:25, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)

vielen Dank :o) die Haken-O Diskussion interessiert mich besonders, weil ich mich gerade in weiterem Kontext mit Unicode-Fragen herumschlage, vgl. Talk:Zürich. Gruss, dab 14:27, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)

On Norse Saga

On User talk:Dino, you note,

== Old Icelandic characters ==

* Dear Dino, I could see you as an editor of Norse Saga. Could you take a look at Talk:Norse saga#Characters "Ǫ" == >& # 4 9 0 ;< and "ǫ" == >& # 4 9 1 ;< and Wikipedia:Invalid article names. Thanks! [[User:Gangleri|Gangleri | T | [2].